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		<title>Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou Ridge to Kalapa o Maua Ridge</title>
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		<category><![CDATA[kuliouou east ridge]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[We hiked a ridge that may be under threat from urban development. Hike today. Gone tomorrow. Photo by Matt Vidaurri. Glenn, Matt, Ryan, Thessa, and Tom joined me today. A friendly owner let us through his property to gain access to the ridge. Henry Kaiser&#8217;s swamp to suburban vision. Build it and they will live [&#8230;]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p></p><p>We hiked a ridge that may be under threat from urban development. Hike today. Gone tomorrow. Photo by Matt Vidaurri.</p>
<div id="attachment_10651" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko1.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko1.jpg" alt="No peeping" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10651" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">No peeping</p></div>
<p>Glenn, Matt, Ryan, Thessa, and Tom joined me today. A friendly owner let us through his property to gain access to the ridge. </p>
<div id="attachment_10653" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko2.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko2.jpg" alt="Good Morning Hawaii Kai" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10653" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Good Morning Hawaii Kai</p></div>
<p>Henry Kaiser&#8217;s swamp to suburban vision. Build it and they will live here.</p>
<div id="attachment_10654" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko3.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko3.jpg" alt="Kuli&#039;ou&#039;ou Ridge" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10654" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou Ridge</p></div>
<p>Most people take the <a href="http://kenjisaito.com/hiking-kuliouou-ridge-and-puu-o-kona/" target="_blank">State ridge trail</a> to get to the summit, we took <em>the</em> ridge trail. </p>
<div id="attachment_10655" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko4.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko4.jpg" alt="Baby cacti" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10655" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Baby cacti</p></div>
<p>Passed a bunch of budding cacti.</p>
<div id="attachment_10657" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko5.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko5.jpg" alt="Selfie rock" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10657" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Selfie rock</p></div>
<p>The moai of Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou. Rain showers passed over the valley. We dug out our raingear. Rain showers stopped. </p>
<div id="attachment_10659" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko6.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko6.jpg" alt="Loose rocks" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10659" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Loose rocks</p></div>
<p>We soon left the exposed ridge to head into a grove of ironwood pine trees. </p>
<div id="attachment_10660" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko9.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko9.jpg" alt="Pine needle slide" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10660" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Pine needle slide</p></div>
<p>Let your butts do the walking.</p>
<div id="attachment_10661" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko10.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko10.jpg" alt="Kuli&#039;ou&#039;ou shortcut" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10661" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou shortcut</p></div>
<p>Thessa pointing to the trail that bypasses the switchbacks from the bottom. </p>
<div id="attachment_10663" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko11.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko11.jpg" alt="Hat junction" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10663" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Hat junction</p></div>
<p>Passing the lost and found trail.</p>
<div id="attachment_10664" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko12.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko12.jpg" alt="Selfie tree" width="700" height="525" class="size-full wp-image-10664" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Selfie tree</p></div>
<p>A tree with multiple branches favored itself to our collective photo. Photo by Matt Vidaurri.</p>
<div id="attachment_10665" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko13.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko13.jpg" alt="State trail" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10665" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">State trail</p></div>
<p>The ridge soon connected to the bustling State trail. </p>
<div id="attachment_10666" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko14.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko14.jpg" alt="Outdoor gym" width="700" height="1050" class="size-full wp-image-10666" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Outdoor gym</p></div>
<p>Pull up versus chin up contest. </p>
<div id="attachment_10667" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko15.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko15.jpg" alt="Who's next?" width="700" height="1050" class="size-full wp-image-10667" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Who&#8217;s next?</p></div>
<p>Push. Oh. Pull.</p>
<div id="attachment_10669" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko18.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko18.jpg" alt="Looking back" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10669" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Looking back</p></div>
<p>Tom coming up the trail.</p>
<div id="attachment_10670" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko20.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko20.jpg" alt="Kuli&#039;ou&#039;ou summit" width="700" height="425" class="size-full wp-image-10670" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou summit</p></div>
<p>Group photo at the windy 2,028&#8242; summit left to right: Tom, Glenn, myself, Thessa, Ryan and Matt. Photo by Tom Engle.</p>
<div id="attachment_10672" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko21.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko21.jpg" alt="Panoramic view" width="700" height="178" class="size-full wp-image-10672" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Panoramic view</p></div>
<p>Click <a href="http://kenjisaito.com/pics/paiko.htm" target="_blank">here</a> for the larger image.</p>
<div id="attachment_10673" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko22.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko22.jpg" alt="Solitary view" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10673" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Solitary view</p></div>
<p>Matt wishing he had a parachute.</p>
<div id="attachment_10674" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko23.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko23.jpg" alt="Passing the sign" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10674" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Passing the sign</p></div>
<p>Leaving the crowded summit.</p>
<div id="attachment_10676" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko25.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko25.jpg" alt="KSRT" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10676" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">KSRT</p></div>
<p>We left the ridge for a short crossover on the Ko&#8217;olau Summit Ridge Trail. </p>
<div id="attachment_10677" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko26.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko26.jpg" alt="Dirt scramble" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10677" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Dirt scramble</p></div>
<p>One step forward. Two steps back. Nobody gets too far like that. This kind of hike can never last.</p>
<div id="attachment_10678" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko27.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko27.jpg" alt="Bear claw ridge" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10678" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bear claw ridge</p></div>
<p>The right claw needs to come out of hibernation.</p>
<div id="attachment_10680" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko27a.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko27a.jpg" alt="Lunch break" width="700" height="394" class="size-full wp-image-10680" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Lunch break</p></div>
<p>We dropped down below the ridgeline to get a little relief from the winds. Like trade lunch? Photo by Ryan Meyer.</p>
<div id="attachment_10682" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko28.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko28.jpg" alt="Back on the trail" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10682" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Back on the trail</p></div>
<p>Resuming our windy hike to Pu&#8217;u o Kona. </p>
<div id="attachment_10684" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko29a.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko29a.jpg" alt="Eroded section" width="700" height="465" class="size-full wp-image-10684" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Eroded section</p></div>
<p>Carefully making our way across. Photo by Tom Engle.</p>
<div id="attachment_10685" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko29b.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko29b.jpg" alt="Scenic lookout" width="700" height="394" class="size-full wp-image-10685" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Scenic lookout</p></div>
<p>Views of Waimanalo and a particular Windward ridge of interest. Photo by Ryan Meyer.</p>
<div id="attachment_10686" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko30a.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko30a.jpg" alt="Puu o Kona" width="700" height="525" class="size-full wp-image-10686" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Puu o Kona</p></div>
<p>Group photo at the 2,200&#8242; summit. Photo by Matt Vidaurri.</p>
<div id="attachment_10688" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko31.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko31.jpg" alt="Going down" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10688" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Going down</p></div>
<p>It&#8217;s all downhill from here. </p>
<div id="attachment_10689" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko32.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko32.jpg" alt="Looking back" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10689" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Looking back</p></div>
<p>Leaving the summit behind.</p>
<div id="attachment_10690" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko34.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko34.jpg" alt="Crumbly rocks" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10690" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Crumbly rocks</p></div>
<p>Tom making his way down with the help of a *gasp* rope.</p>
<div id="attachment_10691" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko35.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko35.jpg" alt="Ridging" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10691" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Ridging</p></div>
<p>Up a ridge. Down a ridge. </p>
<div id="attachment_10692" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko36.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko36.jpg" alt="Uluhe slide" width="700" height="1244" class="size-full wp-image-10692" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Uluhe slide</p></div>
<p>Letting gravity do all the work. Photo by Matt Vidaurri.</p>
<div id="attachment_10694" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko37.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko37.jpg" alt="Kalapaomana ridge" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10694" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Kalapa o maua ridge</p></div>
<p>Bushwhacking ahead.</p>
<div id="attachment_10695" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko38.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko38.jpg" alt="Shoelace tying lesson" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10695" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Shoelace tying lesson</p></div>
<p>Double slip knot. It really works. No, I&#8217;m not buying dinner.</p>
<div id="attachment_10696" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko39.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko39.jpg" alt="Sea of uluhe" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10696" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Sea of uluhe</p></div>
<p>A month earlier, Ryan and I had bushwhacked up from the bottom of the ridge to just shy of the summit. Never start late, never fight gravity and never underestimate Mother Nature. </p>
<div id="attachment_10698" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko42.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko42.jpg" alt="Break time" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10698" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Break time</p></div>
<p>Checking out the views of Kuli&#8217;ou&#8217;ou Valley.</p>
<div id="attachment_10699" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko43.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko43.jpg" alt="Contouring" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10699" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Contouring</p></div>
<p>We skirted the pockets of thick trees that blocked our forward progress.</p>
<div id="attachment_10700" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko45.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko45.jpg" alt="Moku boundary wall" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10700" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Moku boundary wall</p></div>
<p>Old Hawaiian property line that once ran from the Ko&#8217;olau summit to the edge of the reef in the ocean.</p>
<div id="attachment_10701" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko46.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko46.jpg" alt="Bailout trail" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10701" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Bailout trail</p></div>
<p>Anybody see a black Sony camera? Anybody?</p>
<div id="attachment_10702" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko47.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko47.jpg" alt="Rock chair" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10702" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Rock chair</p></div>
<p>Sometimes you have to just sit down and enjoy the view.</p>
<div id="attachment_10703" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko47a.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko47a.jpg" alt="Winding down" width="700" height="437" class="size-full wp-image-10703" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Winding down</p></div>
<p>The group following the ridge down. Photo by Tom Engle.</p>
<div id="attachment_10704" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko50.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko50.jpg" alt="See anything?" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10704" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">See anything?</p></div>
<p>The lower part of the ridge was particularly thick with loose rocks and small hardy trees that forced us to stay to the left of the rock wall.</p>
<div id="attachment_10705" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko51.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko51.jpg" alt="Future development" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10705" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Future development?</p></div>
<p>Looking at the possible future site of another <a href="http://hawaiikaihui.org/2.html" target="_blank">high-end luxury gated community</a>. Another affordable housing project that Hawaii so desperately needs.  </p>
<div id="attachment_10707" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko55.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko55.jpg" alt="Paiko lagoon" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10707" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Paiko lagoon</p></div>
<p>A breach in the rock wall allowed us passage to the other side of the ridge.</p>
<div id="attachment_10708" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko56.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko56.jpg" alt="Water tank" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10708" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Water tank</p></div>
<p>The end of our hot journey was in sight. It felt like we were hiking in Waianae.</p>
<div id="attachment_10709" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko58.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko58.jpg" alt="Got water?" width="700" height="525" class="size-full wp-image-10709" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">Got water?</p></div>
<p>Fun hike with a fun crew. Photo by Matt Vidaurri.</p>
<div id="attachment_10710" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko59.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paiko59.jpg" alt="All pau" width="700" height="467" class="size-full wp-image-10710" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">All pau</p></div>
<p>The crew walking out the paved road.</p>
<div id="attachment_10711" style="width: 710px" class="wp-caption aligncenter"><a href="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paikogps.jpg"><img src="http://kenjisaito.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/04/paikogps.jpg" alt="GPS Tracks" width="700" height="499" class="size-full wp-image-10711" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">GPS Tracks</p></div>
<p>The windy, hot and rocky hike covered 6.92 miles. Post hike meal at Outback. Same booth. Sniff?</p>
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